In a message dated 7/24/2008 4:18:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, culzeans1@xxxxxxx writes: You don't sound like you are grinding away, you sound like you have already walked away and given up. We can't afford for you to give up, we need the teachers, even when we don't want to hear it. I will learn because I want to, you are right, but you should teach because you can. Go ahead, blast away. Pam (or as I have been called polyanna) I just love reading posts from passionate people! Good to know we have lots of people still there wanting to learn and demanding to be heard. Kudo's Pam. The articles you mentioned Paulette from William E. Cotton on his interpretation about the standard I read again last year. This man had incredible insight and could make the standard understandable for newbies and should be mandatory reading for all those applying to judge our breed. These articles were in the Review in the 60's and repeated in the late 70's It was discussed over a year ago that perhaps they should be repeated in the Review.....might not be a bad idea since they are absolutely timeless. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, Life member CKC "Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic" **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================