[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #110 >reasons entries are down-PLEASE CHANGE

  • From: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 12:10:23 -0400 (EDT)

Please change the subject line on this thread as it keeps going in spam  
folder and that messes up Stormy.
Lee Brown
 
 
In a message dated 3/20/2014 10:50:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:
East of  the Mississippi we don't see wing nuts at the a/b  shows. 

We  might see a few early in the year at the specialties and/or Futurities  
 
but they have a way of disappearing.

Secondary sex characteristics  are phenomenal.  I know you didn't get  to 
the national and yes,  I realize that's a specialty, but you would have  
been 
terribly  pleased.  The 6-9 puppy dog and Bred By Exhibitor dogs class  
have  
to be the best I've seen.  The Winners and Specials in both sexes  were  
really something to behold.

For someone who neither  breeds nor competes to paint with such a broad  
brush to say that  (quoting) "healthy and stable temperament today is not 
seen  
very  often nor do I
believe
it will return anytime  soon." is IMO   "crap" and I am sticking to it.

<G>

Kathy, member GSDCA,  DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd  Champions

visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/  


In a  message dated 3/20/2014 11:36:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,   
rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx writes:

I believe a few people in the breed are  beginning to wake up and  
see there are serious issues, overall in  the conformation ring dogs.  I 
believe it is 
dawning on people  that , by and large we are too tightly bred, for too   
long.   I have spoken with
people who have also been in the  breed for many many decades, who are at  
the point, where
we  arrived several years ago of "enough is enough" regarding temperament,  
 
real working athleticism,
and secondary sex characteristics.  I  don't know what it is like  east of 
the Mississippi, 
but I know  what I see , in large part in the area west.   I see a  lot of  
bitchy males, and even
females that are too snippy.   I see a  lot of dogs who are a mess in  the 
rear.  I see dogs that are  well trained,
but truly don't have solid GSD temperament.   I  know there will be  some 
that disagree.  That is their  choice.
Disagreeing with a fact, doesn't change that fact.    
The bright side is, there are many breeders (some of the biggest )  are  now
really looking HARD at these issues. I applaud that, standing  ovation.  



I can go to a dog show and see varying degrees  of good to abysmal.    If 
people want to 
live with the wing  nuts, or the males that look like bitches, that is  
their personal  choice.
Interestingly the public will seldom seek out those dogs.  It  is  very 
telling when we 
really LISTEN to what the public thinks,  or watch to what dogs they  
gravitate at the shows.
Very telling  indeed.    Maybe we should be listening more  often, instead  
of just breeding dogs
that are only appreciated by other  specialists?  
Also I would really like to see it MANDATORY for all  TCs to be filmed.  
Why 
this practice was 
stopped is beyond  me.  But the TC system is as it stands , not a  valid 
test and  denigrates the whole
idea when dogs are being passed that should not be, on  a given day.  Nice 
idea, the TC, but 
meaningless at this  point.



Kathy


_http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_  
(http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/)   
CH.   Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs
CH. Victory's Leviathan  
Kappo  von Eisenwerk
RBIF  Monarch's Tarragon v  Kaleef


"Victory...Vires  et honestas"




On  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:16 AM, <_Pinehillgsds@aol.com_  
(mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx) > wrote:

Oh  that is such  crap.  I have an entire houseful of sound dog w/  their
CHs.  (Several w/ open pedigrees too).

Kathy, member GSDCA,   DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd   Champions
visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/


In a message  dated  3/20/2014 10:53:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
_scenecrest.geo@yahoo.com_  (mailto:scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx)   writes:

The  healthy  and stable temperament today is not seen  very often nor do  I
believe
it will return anytime   soon.
















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