Molly, I would think cement runs would work. Also, you can bury chicken fencing.....that stops them too, as they can't dig "thru" the fencing........or try bringing them in the house. Mo > Go and look at the case I gave you of the bitch I had to do this with. > Would coming home and finding her crushed under concrete been the fairer > route???? I tried every other method and nothing worked. > Another case....a fellow I know with a Great Pyr dug and collapsed his > back deck. It took the posts and concrete right out. He did the > same...worked and saved the dogs like. > The other male I did this too was determined to dig under a huge 4 X6 dog > house I had in their ex yard. It was sitting on a patio stone pad. He > collapsed the stones down on his leg...they weigh 80's lbs. These are > extreme diggers and the method worked. > Have not had to use this in over 20 years.......but I would again if I > had > anything like these past dogs. Sometimes it is necessary to do a trauma > cure to protect hard headed dogs, but I guess no one else ever has had > problematic dogs to the point of life or death....right??? > > Molly ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================