It is amazing that two intelligent, educated people can look at the same situation and have completely opposite opinions. I feel that there is more politics involved in the all-breed ring than in the specialty ring and I have, in the last ten years, won much more in the all breed ring than in the specialty shows. I go to all breed shows if a dog I own or co-own is being shown or I go to visit friends who will be at that particular show. I go to specialty shows for the love of the breed. There is no comparison between the two venues. The specialty judges, honest or not, are German Shepherd people and that is who I want to be with, talk dogs with and visit with. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I know this will offend many people who think differently but this e-mail was written only to show that people can have opposing views of a similar situation and still love the same breed of animals. We all want what is best for the German Shepherd Dog. D.D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <pruett@xxxxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 8:04 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] politics and judging > >The answer to politics and to poor judging in general, is education. If a > >majority of exhibitors are true experts on the breed, poor judging will > >suffer. > > Some very knowledgable breeder judges allow their decisions to be swayed by who > owns the animal, who is standing outside of the ring doubling the dog, who is > handling the animal, or who put up that dog (or the judge's dog) last. In > those cases, it isn't a lack of knowledge on the judges' part, it's lack of > backbone when it comes to doing the right thing. There are a fair number of > folks outside of the ring who don't know any better, but there are also a fair > number of folks outside of the ring who do know better, are tired of seeing it > happen, and who are walking away from it all. Just look around - the specialty > scene isn't what it used to be. There are fewer clubs holding specialty shows > because they can't count on enough of an entry to cover costs. Majors at > all-breeds, though, continue to grow. Yes, politics exist there, too, but not > to the extent that you see at our specialties - at least at the breed judging > level. And I, for one, feel better walking away from an all-breed where the > judge did what he/she did out of stupidity (read lack of knowledge of our > breed) versus leaving a specialty where the judging was not honest. > > Laurie > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================