YEP!!! But by the same token you can get a GREAT shot of split second timing on an average mover that is up and driving and reaching and give the "appearance" of greatness. <G> Not a lot different than the "illusion" that we often see in the ring with the tight leads holding up a pulling dog that is intensely doubled. Is THAT a true picture......or an illusion? We've all seen a dog that is not happy, or not doubled, or with a different handler that chokes them up appear to have no movement......... Some dogs pull so hard at first they destroy themselves until they settle in. Still an illusion....but still what you are evaluating for that moment in time. ......you still can learn to catch that particular fault and "discuss" what we do see and why it is a fault. IT is STILL 'lifting' in that shot you are evaluating. If we want only perfect shots of only perfect dogs in perfect split second stride......we will never see the fault to discuss in any still photo. <G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx ; marhaven@xxxxxxx ; carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 6:30 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: movement pics Mike you are right..............just like Terry was saying if you don't catch the exact moment on film of perfection in motion it makes a dog/bitch look like crap. I have seen motion photos of dogs i have judged or seen in person and it was not the whole picture of what that animal really was,,,,,it was just a bad shot in photography. As Terry was saying the angle has to be just right and the timing in their movement has to be just right...............the pictures can be really cool,,,,,but i have always thought they were very misleading. I love to look at them, but i would save my determination on them for seeing it for real with my own eyes. Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lindenhill German Shepherds" <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <marhaven@xxxxxxx>; <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: movement pics > Yes, there are definitely some poor movement photos, not necessarily poor > dogs. Many times in the past the photos would color my opinion about a > particular animal, that may have otherwise been considered for breeding. > I'm > no longer that critical about movement shots as most are just not that > good, > I prefer to see them in person or on video. > > ;-) > > M > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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