The white is a masking gene right? You would have to know what the phenotype of the whit dog really was underneath the masking gene. Do they have coat color tests the find that out? Denise W. http://sabianshepherds.tripod.com for show and performance ----- Original Message ---- From: David Fritsche <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> To: thelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 2:35:33 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] more on the black color Can't answer questions regarding breeding white to black or a whilte to a black and tan. I personally would not do it............can't answer it!! Our experience has been that black dogs definitely intensify the pigment......the black....and the tan. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ............................................................ .......... I once bred a tall dog to a short bitch hoping to get in-between offspring. What I got was half tall and half short. There went my theory of breeding.... As to breeding a white to a black, that's where you get Dalmatians! Dave _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.4.5 http://www.iolo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================