In a message dated 7/24/2005 1:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: I am now officially confused. I was told that all who voted at the AKC voted to support PAWS, with the exception of Carmen and three others. I didn't hear that only the board voted, but if so, how many voted to support PAWS, as against how many didn't? Evan The vote at AKC was of the Delegate Directors (my error, not the Board). It was NOT a vote of the FULL Delegate Body. Four of twelve directors voted against supporting PAWS, with a fifth objection not recorded due to an illness absence. Those Delegate-Directors opposing PAWS include the following Dr. Carmen L. Battaglia - German Shepherd Dog Club of America Thomas M. Davies, DVM - Springfield Kennel Club Ken Marden - German Shorthaired Pointer Club of America Asa Mays, DVM - Hutchinson Kennel Club (absent) Patti Strand - Dog Fanciers Association of Oregon Following that meeting, on the next day, ~450 AKC club delegates heard an extended, broad bush briefing praising PAWS from James Holt. There wasn't a single question asked, including the obvious one of why four legislation-knowledgeable directors had voted against PAWS 24 hours earlier. Subsequently, the AKC launched a blizzard of press releases, interviews, website postings and email exchanges in an effort to defend its role in PAWS and respond to some of the bill impact criticisms and its animal rightist partnership. It's clear that PAWS confuses many animal owners and AKC's efforts haven't been designed to overly clarify or acknowledge critical mistakes made during the bill's negotiation. Ginger Cleary, GA "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one." Benjamin Franklin. _http://www.rihadin.com_ (http://www.rihadin.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================