[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: let the membership decide?

  • From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
  • To: onaluzlead@xxxxxxx, kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:30:21 -0400 (EDT)

They came from the US and Canada (CKC and AKC German Shepherds), starting in 
the late 70s.   
They are German Shepherds with a different name.


Barb Hively - PA
DNA.  It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd



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From: Donna <onaluzlead@xxxxxxx>
To: kmc <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2013 8:39 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: let the membership decide?


Interesting yet again but... What does the DNA read of the Berger Blanc Suisse?
Donna Calabrese

Sent from Donna on her new iPhone


On Aug 16, 2013, at 8:16 PM, Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:42:30 -0400, The Crystal Crow
> <thecrystalcrow@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> 
>> I find it hard to believe that something can be stated to be "simply not
>> true" when in fact it is stated clearly on the AKC website:
>> http://www.akc.org/reg/fss_details.cfm
>> 
>> 
>> THIS IS, IN FACT, TRUE: The FSS® is not open to "rare" breeds that are a
>> variation of an AKC-registrable breed or the result of a combination of two
>> AKC-recognized breeds. This includes and is not limited to differences such
>> as size (over and under), coat type, coat colors, and coat colors and/or
>> types that are disqualifications from Conformation Events by AKC breed
>> standards.
> 
> It's all fine and good to quote from the rules and regs of
> AKC on the FSS program, but what you are not considering
> is this: the Berger Blanc Suisse *IS*, in fact, an actual
> stand-alone breed registered and recognized around the
> world... pretty much everywhere EXCEPT here in North
> America. Even the mighty SV had no problem with its
> introduction and establishment in Germany or elsewhere.
> 
> I have been following the establishment of the FSS since
> the beginning of the program. I believe the above section
> of the rules was meant to prevent the possibility of new
> "breeds" that don't exist anywhere else except in the
> minds of the breeders breeding them -- or perhaps within
> organizations such as Continental KC. There are a good
> many fully established breeds around the world that
> originally came from a parent breed with a
> disqualification or fault. These breeds are doing just
> fine, thank you, and fully recognized by FCI. I guarantee
> you, they WILL be brought to this country some day, if
> they are not here already. This is the very reason why the
> FSS was established in the first place: to give new breeds
> just being established here a place to grow and develop
> under the umbrella of AKC while, at the same time, letting
> the people in those breeds become accustomed to AKC's
> regulations for important things like record keeping.
> 
> Did you all know that a dog (or breed) being recorded with
> FSS is NOT the same thing as being AKC registered? The 
> FSS is simply expanding on the role that was once filled
> by the Miscellaneous Class. Breeds stay in the FSS for as
> long as it takes for them to be ready to enter the Misc.
> Class, a process which can take as many - or as few -
> years as necessary. There is no stated timetable as there
> is for the Misc. Class. If the BBS goes into FSS tomorrow,
> you might never compete against one in an AKC Group ring
> for 5 or 10 years. Maybe even more.
> --
> Karen C.
> Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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