[ SHOWGSD-L ] cTLI scores?

  • From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:49:37 -0400 (EDT)

I am so behind on emails, doing a few fund raisers for Sandy victims, this  
has taken all my time, and still trying to get the contractors to finish 
repairs  on my house before the next wave of storms on Wednesday, but let me 
share with  you what I learned
 
Test MUST be done fasting. Recommended protocol, first test after 1 year of 
 age, second test six months later, and then once a year.  Tests before 1  
year of age are basically a waste of your time and money.
 
GSD "normal" (more like common)  range is 3-8, treat  anything  below 5. 
But that was the lab we use, not Antech. These scales  apparently differ by 
lab.  This range is particular to GSD, and as I  understand, is different for 
each breed. Same experience as yours, the lab  doesn't communicate with the 
patient/owner that's paying the bill, they only  talk to the vets.  We are 
not worthy....<G>....
 
Of course, all this is under the assumption that the animals tested are  
fasted, not on any prozyme/enzyme supplementation, etc. Basically, the owners  
have to be honest for all this work to be worth it.
 
Later, have to start a couple of chip-in accounts for people who are in  
real need.
 
I'll be no mail, and will check emails when times allows.
 
Be safe everyone.
 
* Ileana  *
Love me, love my dogs.  
 
In a message dated 11/3/2012 11:40:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx writes:

So...just got the score back on a bitch I had tested (fasting  results)  
25.1

Her 7 month old puppy, 13.3

I can see on the  fax from the vet, that the lab's (Antech) normal range is 
  
5-35.

We know that EPT is anything under 2.5, and we have also  learned some vets 
 
treat under 5.

Texas A & M has  apparently done a lot w/ this and their definition of  
normal is  slightly different (5.something) but not enough to split   hairs.

On the Texas A & M web site they used to have a chart that  showed low  
normal, etc. and now I can't find it, although  interestingly I am finding 
case  
studies of dogs w/ SIBO and a  reference for one dog at "low normal" at  
6.8. 
So I wrote to them and  here's what I got:  


Hello, 
Thank you for your   interest in our services. Unfortunately, due to 
veterinary licensing  issues we  are legally prohibited from giving advice 
or 
releasing  results directly to pet  owners. However, we do offer a free  
consultation service that your veterinarian  may use. Please have  your 
veterinarian 
contact us at gilab@xxxxxxxxxxxx or  979-862-2861,  and we will set up a 
consult 
request so that one of our internal   medicine specialists can work with 
your veterinarian to provide the  highest  level of patient care available. 
If 
you are looking for a  specialist in your  area, you can search at the 
American College of  Veterinary Internal Medicine at   
_http://www.acvim.org/websites/acvim/index.php?p=3_  
(http://www.acvim.org/websites/acvim/index.php?p=3)   
or the  American Animal Hospital Association at _http://www.healthypet.com_ 
 
(http://www.healthypet.com/) . As always, we  are here to help. Thank  you 
for 
your continued support. 
Thank  you, 
Samantha   Britt  
************************************************************************  
Does  anybody have additional info, charts, recommended frequency for  
tests,  recommended ranges for breeding stock?  I'm not so much  concerned 
w/ a  
definition for EPI...My thought is a lower than ideal  pancreatic function  
can set a dog up for a whole lot of things,  SIBO, TG etc., I am trying to  
quantify "lower than ideal" and I'll  be damned but I am coming up  empty 
on 
data.

Kathy, member  GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations  of Dual Titled TC'd  Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_  (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   




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