Great post Suzanne:) Unless someone has gone on in some type of performance venue, I don't think they realize what a PITA (pain in the a....) it is to raise a performance prospect. First, erase "no" from your vocabulary and learn to re-direct instead of correcting. Build confidence. Build it some more. The rascal of a puppy will grow to be a brave adult that will TRY. Now, depending on your interest, "try" might mean giving 110% in the group ring, it might mean going between the sheep and the fence, it might mean dragging the handler on the end of a tracking harness and/or doing good SCH work. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 8/7/2009 9:48:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Folks seem to be under the misguided impression that a puppy has to be taught to bite to work in schutzhund. Not true. Correct temperament is correct temperament. Situational behaviors are something else. Dogs dig, they chew, they poop, they mark territory, THEY BITE. Those are normal doggie behaviors. We turn them into situational behaviors - its OK to dig but not in my garden, its ok to chew your toys but not my shoes, you have to poop but OUTSIDE, etc. So we don't teach dogs to bite. Given the right provocation EVERY dog will bite. Provocation might be as simple as looking at them or as bad as pounding but eventually ever animal will defend itself. Back a mouse into a corner and it will come at you like a lion!! What we do with every dog we own, Ambred or German, GSD or Chihuahua, is teach them when and where aggression is appropriate [HOPEFULLY] because if WE don't, they DO CHOOSE their own line on the ground and we might not agree where that is!!!!! Raising a performance puppy involves two things. Teaching them to tug as a game and toy drive. With the tug they must win occasionally. They must win enough that they keep playing but only just enough that it means something when you release the tug toy. The strong toy drive means you have to spend lots fo time playing with puppy! And the cardinal rules of the tug and toys games are these - they are never allowed to play with either unsupervised so these two games are strictly human/puppy interaction. AND both have to end immediately on command. So long as you have those two games firmly in place as a puppy, MANY performance events become easier. Schutzhund is a game. The sleve eventually becomes the tug - a toy that is only fun when attached to a human. The dog messes up in training the sleve is dropped on the ground and becomes a 'dead' object with no attractive value. Toy games teach them to search and focus for heeling, scent work, tracking, DRUG work, etc. Simple stuff on paper but requiring tons of individual time with each puppy - something that usually doesn't happen with folks who keep large numbers of dogs.......... in fact, most American breeders tell their puppy buyers absolutely no tug games which on one hand HELPS keeps puppies from developing dominance issues and high drive behaviors. However, it also fails to encourage puppies from developing dominance toward sleeves and helpers too. Many TRAIN their dogs NOT to do schutzhund or any type of bite work. Thats why I said before. Many dogs COULD do the work if raised for it. Most are just not. Its not wrong or right. It is based on what each of us wants to live with. Suzanne ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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