yeast or fungal will not grow on a bacteria culture..but this does sound like a urinary tract infection.. weird, though, that they both have it at the same time.. I would treat with the antibiotic regardless of what your eventual decisions are.. especially for the sake and comfort of the girls.. Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com/rosie.htm -UPDATED!!! New litter born august 12/05!! 6 girls, 5 boys - 3 black boys, 2 black girls! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gsdwindborne@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 12:16 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] blood or blood clots in urine > i thought i would put this to the membership of the list to see if any of you > have any ideas as to what this might possibly be.i acquired two bitches from > a breeder, they are now 21 mos. old,one is now spayed and in a pet home,the > other i still have,after the second heat cycle both these bitches(litter > sisters) began passing blood or blood clots in their urine,three urinalysis,negative > of bacteria,an ultrasound,on both,entire bloodwork panel,antibiotic therapy,5 > different veterinarians,no diagnosis,both bitches are the outword picture of > health and vigor, i was told by the breeder that the dam had similiar > symtoms,but they subsided after 3-4 mos. of antibiotic therapy,and told by the breeder > of everything on the bitchline side of their pedigree to just put them > down,which leads me to think might this be a health or genetic issue which may affect > gsd's that i or the other 5 veterinarians are not aware of,please i would > appreciate any input from those of you who might be knowlegable or familiar with > this, all the bloodwork and ultrasounds were normal on both these bitches. > very sincerely, carolyn edwards > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================