I know Iza Kabuska has several males that produce blacks and/or who are black...not sure where they all live, but I know she lives in NJ... the three I can think of off hand are Sel CH Scher-Lo's Rogue of Karizma, Ch Karizma's Born in the USA, and CH Scher-Los Marko Von Karizma Maggie Marshall Aeval German Shepherds http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html Website updated 3/15/2007 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================