Since there is argument about the reserves competing against the winners at the National....What about picking a Junior Futurity winner from the junior and teenage class winners, and a Senior Futurity winner from the intermediate and senior class winners. You would then have 2 from each region just as with the reserve system, but wouldn't have the issue of who defeated who. This would give the junior puppy a better change for a big win. We always hear complaints that the age/maturity difference between junior and senior classes puts the junior at a distinct disadvantage...... Just a thought.......... Cyndi www.carettigsd.com <http://www.carettigsd.com/> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================