Jill, Just what do you propose as a means of identifying dogs that are going to bloat??? Dont you think if this were possible it would have been addressed already. It is easy for one tyo say do these things, but greater minds have been working on this for 50 years...without any progress...SOOO as a veterinarian I fell a preventive is better than nothing..Perhaps you have not wittnessed a dog bloating..watching the agonizing pain they experience and the pain of the owner as their dog dies...I would like to circumvent both of the above...so preventing it is my solution. Chuck kruger dvm www.vibrantpets.net ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================