In a message dated 7/18/2006 7:13:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, caretti@xxxxxxxxxx writes: One of the arguments for having a gun test at the Nat'l is that newbies might breed to one of the Grand Victors or Selects who "slip through the cracks" on the LLTT. .......I have some unsolicited advice to newbies regarding breeding...Don't breed to a picture on a website, or in the Review....See the dog in the flesh....Get up close on him. Talk to people who have bred to him.....Not just the breeder/owner/promoter........Don't depend on the National judge to pick out the best dog for your bitch....don't depend on the promoters either.....No matter how much he/she claims to know...love the breed...have come from a back ground of breeding/training....... Make the decision based on what *you've* learned. >>> That may very well be one of the best things I've read in a very long time...nice job!! Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================