In a message dated 9/6/2007 9:02:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: dear kathy, how many films have YOU sent to the SV?? 12 months is not the issue here. my "a" normal 11 year old bitch was OFA good at 38 months. my wienerau bitch's grandmother was "a" noch zugelassen oh that is just still permissible you know, at 12 months and she was OFA good at 35 months. i have sent in several films for prelims to ofa and certification to the SV, probably about 15 over the years and i had a "fast normal" bitch go excellent here so i don't think that translates to mild. i don't feel a need to continue nor defend either method. it just gets annoying when people who have not done it and have no clue read something on the net and become experts. susan Susan, the problem with using a handful of dogs to formulate a response IMO is that the information is (just) anecdotal. I don't care if we're talking OFA, A stamp, a dog's response to flea and tick control or a certain diet. Experience with a handful of dogs is just that; anecdotal. Now, give me veterinary data using large studies of dogs and I'll consider it. (That's why I provided the link for the chart to the list). Your 15 experiences sending in films for A stamp designation over the years or the two or three you keep citing or a dog you x-rayed at 12 months still being "good" at 35 months doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot (to me) in comparison. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================