In a message dated 9/7/2007 2:10:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sanderhaus@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: you are the one who gave one small example: fast normal = mild, was what you said. No. I didn't give "one small example", I didn't "say" anything; I "cited" a comparison of hip scores. I gave the link to a chart comparing all of the hip schemes on the ofa web site. Maybe you missed it? If you did, here it is again: _http://offa.org/hipgrade.html_ (http://offa.org/hipgrade.html) Scroll to the bottom. (It also included Europe and Australia). Obviously, since the larger data base doesn't coincide in a positive way with your personal experiences, it hit a nerve. Sorry about that. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================