Yes I do think that in Canada our Non breeding agreement is very good as is our identifying system of each dog , tattoo or microchip and is noted by the CKC on the registration papers. No system is perfect, but this one works for most people. People who are cheaters or liars will always find a way.but it will catch up with them eventually. Emilie JMHO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Regatta" <zilla@xxxxxxx> To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:12 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: a gathering storm At 05:41 AM 5/20/06 -0700, RivendellP wrote: >Limited Registration is also another very important factor in reduced >participation in the show and futurity systems. Perhaps the AKC should reconsider the limited registration. In Canada, our limited registration (called Non-Breeding Agreement) only prevents registration of any progeny bred from a dog registered in this manner, as does the AKC one. But any limited registered dog can be shown in CKC conformation shows, as well as all other CKC sanctioned events. The Non-Breeding Agreement can be changed by the breeder, and many breeders here sell puppies in this manner as a "safe" way to grow them out and maintain some kind of control of their breeding programs and bloodlines while allowing many newbies to get their feet wet and try the show game. Granted, there are pro's and con's to any kind of dealings or transactions when dogs and people are involved, and any agreement or contract is only as good as the paper it's written on and the people who write and sign them. A Non-Breeding Agreement or limited registration doesn't change the quality of any individual dog, and yes, PETS do get into the show ring (as they do even when fully registered) but there is no harm in that in the big picture. It might get people interested in trying the show game and pursuing a better dog in the future, or it might even bring out a dog or two who grew out better than a breeder might have expected. I had a litter in September, ALL were sold on Non-Breeding agreements. One of the males is sitting on 5 points at 8 months of age, with a few Breed wins under his little belt, one male was shown once and was RWD, and the female is about to get started (the other 3 were coats). They are also futurity nominated and will be shown in that shortly. The Non-Breeding agreements can be lifted in a flash if they turn out. JMO Jill Canada ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.0/341 - Release Date: 5/16/2006 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================