Sorry, Paul, but you're wrong. In 1981 people didn't have the performance venues that exist now...where they don't need a handler, but can do it themselves. If you look at how Rally and Agility have grown vs. how the breed ring (both all breed and specialty rings) entries have declined, you will see that people still come into the sport...but they don't want to throw their money away when they are discouraged from the get go...they have other venues open to them where they are met with open arms and encouraged. And for anyone who thinks that there aren't a lot of really wonderful dogs who don't get shown because there is no handler available, or because there's one available but the dog's owner can't afford it, I say "come down, come down, from your ivory tower." Saying that you can't get a good dog if you can't pay the freight was a snotty comment, not to mention an untrue one...and I don't see where you've shown that to be true. It has nothing to do with winning or losing. It has to do (for one thing) with having fun...and some people don't want to keep butting their heads against a wall to be accepted...they can move to another venue and be welcomed right off the bat...money or not. And not one word of what I wrote is BS. Peggy RivendellP wrote: > While these comment are very true...they aren't any different than > what we heard from others when we got into it in 1981. No...that's not > true because we heard it from more people then than there are now. > > We love the dogs, the sport, and the people. We've taken it from a > hobby, to an avocation, to a vocation. Our success has driven us and > has been worth the effort. To anyone who's thinking about the > sport...and all of its many venues...the T + Q = S formula is a proven > means to success. All of the other BS we discuss is just that BS. > > Paul > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================