Jane you are so right. I am so tired of people saying they have or want a puppy out of a working line. A working dog is any dog that works whether its herding, obedience, shutzhund or whatever. I didn't know that is a special line. Just because the sire & dam has a herding, obedience, shutzhund or whatever title does not mean the progeny is automatically going to be a title holder in one of the the above titles. Another example is a pup comes from a long line of conformation champions does not say the pup will automatically beome a conformation champion. Jane as you posted a dog that is bred to the standed can get any title that the owner wants weather its herding, conformation, search and rescue, obedience, shutzhund and on and on and on. Its what they want to put into the time and training of their dog. A German Shepherd is a German Shepherd is a German Shepherd. Its our great breed. Jane I love your post (THANK YOU). It great. JMO. Have a great day Louie ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================