I've said this once before but nobody seems to listen. So here it is again We need to have 2 awards, just like we do at our all breed trials. The awards are: High in Trial Grand Victor/Victrix The first award is independent of the dog's breed qualifications. The second one is for a dog that meets the breed standard. So if a white gsd has the highest score he/she gets the High in Trial award. Then the GSD that meets the other qualifications gets the GV title. If the highest score is earned by a qualifying GSD then he/she gets both awards. If this is adopted we can do away with all the flack that keeps on going around and keep everybody happy. Comments? Michel Ebertin ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================