The 15 to 18 thousand dollar price tag probably doesn't include the removal and then re-installation of the turf. That will run in the thousands. Don't forget to price in the removal of the turf when we are done with it. Has a buyer been arranged for the sod after we are through with it? Someone had better rewrite the requirements for the national site. With the entries getting smaller every year what is required is not justified buy the revenue of the entries. To hang on to these requirements that will eventually brake the club is just irresponsible. Do we spend this much time worring about obedience, agility,herding?? Are they not the events that hold the national shows out of the red? If our dog's, the ones that can do anything, can't run on turf then we had better start breeding better dogs. As a club member I want to know who is trying to lead this club off a cliff. We no longer need an indoor climate controlled facility. We need a large outdoor grassy area. Terry From: "VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx" <VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx> To: k9krazz@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 3:21 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What's the real reason to put SOD. In a message dated 9/5/2011 2:11:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, k9krazz@xxxxxxxxx writes: There's some reason these people want to put sod. They like the look of sod better than turf? They like the smell of fresh sod over turf? Their Dogs can't run on turf? Their handlers can't run on turf? They just want to throw a wrench in the works? It's a BIG waste of money to replace the artificial turf with SOD. - Mike As a judge of 51/2 Groups,I have judged ,over the 50 yrs, many different breeds, on artificial flooring,including carpeting,and turf, with great moving dogs at their Nationals ,like Siberian Huskies,Corgies,Dobes Golden Retrievers and even Great Danes,and they do move slightly different on inside ,artificial turf,than the do outside on grass. As a handler ,I showed my GSDs on grass outside,in barns ,,and parking ramps on cement floors with sometimes rubber matting,and all sorts of odd footing. All 3 Nationals that I judged were on Sod indoors/ And my opinion , is our GSDs are sooo different in their gaiting ,and it so much an important part of our breed judging.--- that sod inside or grass outside is really a must. That's why it is listed as a requirement for our Nationals. On the other hand ,if the astro turf has been upgraded from the earlier days,made smoother and softer,so dogs pads are not affected,making dogs lame,and the surface has been "dog tested" we should be open to the change,with it being less expensive. No one wants a repeat of the Dallas National,where dogs went lame and handlers could hardly walk by the end of Judging, Tom Bennett did that National. and Harrigan suffered a loss. Helen Miller Fisher ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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