In a message dated 12/22/04 3:08:44 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, EKOLAN1@xxxxxxx writes: THEY ALL HAD THE SAME PEDIGREE the > other 5 couldn't produce there way out of a wet paper bag. On the other hand, to give one example, Ben and Dealer both earned ROM. I understand Zeus and Zeto had the same number of champions. It depends on the consistency of the pedigree, and not just that one dog. As was pointed out on the List, the German pedigrees are forced to be more open than we do. We tend to breed to a point where we can depend on what the dogs will produce, and what we can and cannot get from a bitch. I can spot a Ben son or daughter easily. The same can be said for a number of our top producing animals. Line breeding is a good thing in order to secure the future. An out cross can be helpful, but does not give you the future consistency of producing that we want. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================