I agree with Bill Basu and Kathy Tank. A lot of people put a lot of thinking into which futurity they will enter. I think people should just be given a chance to enter a different futurity, but not get back a refund. By the way, I am not entered in any futurity or maturity. I also don't think of the futurity as just a puppy match. The purpose of the futurities is to see how and what sires are producing. That is a good purpose. Of course we can somewhat see this by going to shows, but it is a nice and good idea and serves a good purpose. Although I understand Laura's concern, I think that we just can't break up the regions any further since the entries are already small. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scharo777@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:12 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What about the clubs???? I have read much of what is being said about the "poor exhibitor" possibly being out a an entry fee because of the judge change at the South Pacific Futurity. And this does affect me, because I have three dogs entered there. HOWEVER: It is about time someone considered the club. They agreed to do this futurity. They published the names of all their choices. They had no control over Bart's Illness. They had no control that Rita opped out. Karen Wagner WAS on their judging panel for the weekend. Probably most people going there intended to show to her anyway. If a mass of exhibitors could pull their entry and get refunds - it would probably bankrupt the club. They will still have to put on the futurity and have the same amount of expenses. Don't most of you people belong to local clubs??? (If not why not, but that is another subject) Would you want this to happen to your club.??? And think about how many people don't show up to futurities. at least 50%. Those people would have an excuse to get their money back, maybe just because their pup has pano or has gone butt high. Is that fair to the local club.?? CLUBS ARE STRUGGLING!!! Since I happen to like to go to dog shows - I would like to see more support for the local clubs. Carol Moore **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusye lp00000005) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ __________ NOD32 3571 (20081030) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================