Barbara is exactly right here. Without actually looking it up, I believe it is true across all the various WS/wGSD Standards that the "ideal" color is a true, clear white. However, most of us also realize that there are far more important things to worry about, not the least of which are good temperament, health and longevity and sound structure and movement, so our Standards wisely count those things above mere color alone. Ruh-Ro... Are we starting to see eye to eye???? ;) -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:26:59 -0400 (EDT), barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote: >There are lots of PURE (bright) whites. And, some whites are >actually genectically sable, who produce sables when bred to B/Ts. > >Barb H - PA > >-----Original Message----- >From: Doc Zoe <wynsum@xxxxxxx> >To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 4:15 pm >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] WHITE > > >The white masking gene is recessive. White bred to white only produces white >They are not albino or pure white, they have a bisquiting >Z ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================