Thank you for the quick History Lesson Evan! I agree with your statements at the bottom. They really do not care for us...they do not like our dogs and they obviously have no respect for our GSDCA President. Therefore......we should have no respect for them! I agree that the Board should vote that support both financially and with AKC should be stopped immediately. We do not need to waste any more time or effort or monies with this type of relationship. It is useless to both sides and serves NO purpose. However ...I do still think that we should encourage some of the WDA hard working members to join with the GSDCA, Inc. to come up with some type of Program with titles that would in time satisfy the WDA people with their dogs and their training. WE need them to come into our fold and help us help them to come up with a future and plan for them identical to what they were and are involved in WITH WDA. If not...we may lose them to UScA....simply because they have the shows and the "a" stamp program already in place for SV trials.. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of ELG440@xxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:06 PM Subject: WDA and The SV ..............Each year the WDA would come to the GSDCA to get funds to send a team to the World Trials. They insisted on only taking German dogs, and that was the first indication of their dislike for our style of dogs. Then when Ken Downing was the president of the WDA, Dan Yee arranged a vote to remove him, without him knowing about it, and without the membership voting. That is when I resigned, and stopped donating to the WDA. Now they have made it clear that they have no use for the GSDCA, and more so, that they don't agree with our standard. I probably have all the original records, but they would be in storage. The GSDCA should disband the WDA, make sure the AKC knows we no longer support them, and give them freedom and stop supporting them. All it would take is a resolution or vote by our board. The AKC will now allow bite work, so we should get rid of the WDA. They serve no purpose to the GSDCA. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together In a message dated 3/4/2014 12:03:34 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Evan, could you provide some additional historical background on the structure between the two organizations, how they were(or were not) supposed to operate(either together or independently). A couple of lingering questions have been on my mind, and since you were there, perhaps you can provide some insight a) Is the WDA a subsidiary of the GSDCA? b) How were the finances initially structured? c) What continued responsibilities did the GSDCA have? d) Do you have a copy of the articles of incorporation? If so, can you provide? e) Can the GSDCA dissolve the WDA? ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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