Were Hein and Axel or even Troll proven to be known carriers??? A dog can be from particular lines and yet not be a carrier of specific problems running in those lines. Most American lines go back to all of those dogs more than a few times....and yet this particular problem is not typically known to be a problem here. Like Debbie we had all of our dogs tested a few years ago through someone doing research on vWD through UCDavis and none of our dogs were affected nor carriers....Nor do I know of any American dogs known to be affected with this particular disease. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [ On Behalf Of Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 2:16 PM To: ELG440@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject:Re: Von Willebrand's disease Canto von der Wienerau It is not eliminated in the American lines though, since GSD's that goes back to Canto von der Wienerau linebreeding 5 generations... 5 - 4............................................. in V ROM (US) Hein vom Richerbach 5,5 - 5,5......................................... in V1 (US) Axel von de Denninghauser Heide Troll von Richterbach son of Axel is it really not in American lines? All the inherited weaknesses of all the diseases and blood disorders are in America as well as Germany. Ever wonder why Hein and Axel were sold to America? Theresa --- On Thu, 11/15/12, ELG440@xxxxxxx <ELG440@xxxxxxx> wrote: This seems to be one of the things we have all but eliminated in the American lines. They seem to still have a problem with it in Germany, and it is a problem when we import or breed into those lines. After forty years of breeding and who knows how many litters, we haven't seen this. But our last litter has a line to a German dog, so we are going to test the puppies. They are great, by the way, so don't think I am down on the German lines. As more breeders breed out of the country, we probably need to watch this more closely. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================