Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D It seems that most of the folks (that I've talked to) that favor no train= ing show in specialty only, and the folks that also show in all breed want t= hem more trained and behaved.=0D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=0D =0D While I prefer showing in specialties, I've never been able to exclusivel= y gain all my points from that venue. Be it a time issue to finish quickly= or what have you... my dogs need to be trained well enough to win under a competent judge. The more AB the judge is... the better trained my dog needs to be. I do feel that since my dogs dwell in my home over night t= hat I have an easier time with the training than the Breeder who has kennel d= ogs Mine get to settle down.... bringing them in tends to gentle them as we= ll, and they get to fully understand the English language and learn manners.=20 Not to say the kennel dog cannot be turned out equally as well... my poi= nt here is ... 'home school' is a short cut to the ring. Living indoors fro= m 8pm to 8am (12 hrs. makes a world of difference).=0D =0D What is difficult to achieve sometimes with training various temperaments= is being able to promote the dog's 'natural free spirit'. I do things proba= bly completely different from most. When all the dogs are exercised (we hav= e 5 acres of foot paths/track), they are loose. No chokers or leads. When t= he dogs are roadworked, they are on harness with the bells that we double th= em with attached to their withers. No chokers or leads. Their love for the work is accompanied by the jingle of bells and they associate these bells with fun. We do not want an obedience trained dog... we want them to be more free.=0D =0D When puppies are first leash trained they drag us around everywhere... through the trees, bushes... we follow them, it's their 15 minutes. Then= , slowly we begin asking them to follow us. With a pocket of treats and a pocket of bells, we run backwards asking the puppy to catch us. We teach the stack but actually emphasize more on stand and stay. Another exercis= e is watch me and where did the treat go? The use of the choke collar is n= ot so much used for obedience correction as it is for simple control. I wou= ld equal it's use to a cavesson on a young horse which is a superior form of head collor (stronger than a halter), rather than...... a bridle with a b= it.=0D =0D Kate Syssoloff - Rockannand=0D Club Secretary, BCGSDC=0D In Beautiful British Columbia, Canada=0D SEL TIGER~SEL PATENT~BIM THE TANGO=0D http://www.members.shaw.ca/rockannand=0D =0D =20 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================