California is probably not unique, but for the past couple of years, the personal EGOS have made it almost a battle ground for supremacy of groups. There was total apathy and shambles for years, then they saw the spotlight. It's a shame. And it's the reason our "little" group isn't a members group or an donation seeking group. It is merely a very small group of mostly women who are doing "projects to support OTHER groups. A couple of years ago, there was an attempt to get everybody to talk with each other. They couldn't even do that! And everybody disses each other. Badly Hopefully, that isn't as bad in other states, but for California, there are just too many bad "ACTORS" trying for the limelight. I see other states doing it better, having a single entity with groups coalescing under a an umbrella. Oh, California... !!! :-( S On Feb 21, 2009, at 10:38:22 AM, "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks Ileana.......GOOD POINT!! This is what I am trying to get across. The State of California alone has about four "groups". and more. How do I know what to do......send each one $10.00 or $20.00.....how - who do our Regional Clubs know which to support...?? If we had just one huge powerful Organization that worked within ALL the States....and then worked with ONE Satellite Group within each State....we would be able to raise funds...know where to donate money and pool funding from ALL KINDS of Organizations....and ourselves become powerful as pet owners, breeders, Pet Stores, Guide Dogs...Horse owners, Cat owners, hunting dogs.... and the list goes on... As it is.....on this List alone....I see bad bills popping up all over the Nation with information from Ginger and Stormy and for quite a while from Peggy.....( she is without a computer right now ) .and also receiving information from SAOVA, PET PAC, the Fed. of Dog Clubs, our local Council of Dog Clubs....to name just a few......and I have to try to sort out which message to send to our Club members or if I am repeating the same message or bad bill from just different groups..........it is overwhelming. As Breeders, Clubs and individuals ......we have no idea where to send our donations or how to choose. As Stormy said......we need to learn from our enemy and play by the same rules or we'll lose!! We need a "mother ship"......and satellite groups off that umbrella in each State ........and then the Regional Clubs can work and help and donate under that and then we can do the same as individuals through our Regional Club or the State Satellite group.....but the power would be United and Nation-wide AND ORGANIZED. How to do this......I don't know....but I would think it could start with concerned Lobbyists and a Public Relations artist and a master organizer....... I'm more of the 'start the commotion' "rabble rouser" worker in the background.........it aint me....<G> -- Stormy Hope carpoc.org GSDCA Member And more clubs ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================