Having grown up in GSDs around the infamous Lamar Kuhns, I formed an understanding of what "type" means, as defined by Lamar. I think it is right and in the general context of it's use, I am sure I am right. Lamar used to walk into a ring with a beautiful animal, hold his hand up in the air while the dog or bitch posed itself, put one hand on his hip, turn to ringside and say something like "now this is simply dripping in type!" His comment had nothing to do with movement. That was altogether something else. It was the look of the animal. Clearly Lamar was referring to the GSD Standard description of the dog. A male, who looked like a male, of rich color, good substance and ideal proportions. A bitch who looked like a bitch with similar attributes. Obviously the temperment had to be there, in order to look alert and confident, to be "typey", but movement was not part of this comment. There were many dogs who Lamar showed who lacked "type" but could move like the wind. And he won with them. There were many who "dripped" with type who couldn't move out of their own shadow. And he often won with those as well. So I would say that a dog with good breed Type would have to look like the standard, but not necessarily move as the Standard describes. I would be surprised if I was the only one who felt this way. So lets hear your thoughts. John V ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================