Thanks Chris. This post is much appreciated. Most of us will live with a site being used for three years. We understand the need to try to stay profitable........but....Three years in a row is kind of disheartening is all to those that have trouble getting there. <G> I'm not sure that improves entries and profits. So be it.... I really don't believe in the "damned if you do and damned if you don't" theory though. I think the members are very reasonable ( most of the time )...and since we all have to function on some kind of budget we more than understand most of those decisions. The "unpopular" decisions are the ones that the cause members to feel left out with no chance to vote on or reflect any kind of opinion on decisions that have to do with our GSD Breed!! i.e. Bob Lindsay tapes of our Breed....Standard changes....voting on the choice of separation...etc. That is not a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" mindset. That is more about members that CARE about the Future of our Breed's History, breeding and exhibiting.... and the National. That's the passion of those that love this Breed and care. IMO it should be EXPECTED! Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com On Behalf Of Chris S. Kimerer (Redacted sender "tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Treasurer and Finances I've been reading all the posts regarding the audit letter, QB and Financial situation of the Club and have to chime in on this. First off, I hope everyone that has read the audit letter also took the time to read the Financial Review and Recommendations that were made by Van Dukeman, Bill Hope and Sam Israel. If you have not, it would be worth anyone's time to read them. With that said, several of the recommendations made by that committee to make the club more fiscally responsible and sound were acted upon by our board, to some of the memberships dismay I might add. One of the biggest issues has and always will be our National, it is the either money making or money loosing machine of this club. One of the first and foremost recommendations was to seek out a 3-5 year "same location" contract to be able to negotiate a better rate. The board did exactly that by going to Purina for 3 years, at the big outcry of the membership I might add. But what this will do is make the National end up being profitable over the next 3 years, via significant savings on facility rental and not having to purchase sod, both some of the major expenditures for a National. Another recommendation was to reduce the size of the board, which was also done, and will save many more dollars over the next several years. There were several other recommendations, i.e. expenditure for the election process and the membership budget, I believe that there has been reduction in that as well. It was also recommended to have better internal auditing practices and apply dual controls where applicable. That was an aspect where I was involved with on a personal level. For the first time ever I worked the Parent Club Products table. Every single item that was sold was run through the cash register that was programmed for each item sold, much like at a fast food restaurant where each button is programmed for each individual item. SO, we had to balance at the end of the day. I believe that was the first year this new procedure was implemented, so instead of just entering in an amount of cash/check or credit card received, everything was entered by the item being sold. At the end of each day, a final "Z" tape was run, and the cash, credit card and check totals were then balanced by two people. I come from a banking background so I along with the new Treasurer Larry Rock decided that there would always be two people handling the final count and balancing for that day. After the entire week, we balanced within $20 or there about. In the beginning we had some issues with the I-Pads being used for the Credit Card Sales, but to make a long story short, we had a final tally to balance to by the end of the day, which is the way business should be done. The same procedure was applied at the Parent Club Table that sold the Catalogs, Red Books and Dinner Tickets etc., each item was processed through the register and at the end of the day, all monies received were balanced to the tape. I know for a fact that QB will be used by the new Treasurer, and it's a really good program. I use it every day at the company that I work for, we do about ten million dollars in gross annual sales, everything is processed through QB and I do all the entering for that. As some others have mentioned, it is very easy and user friendly, I have not used the 501C version but am sure that Larry will have it down pat pretty quickly. As has been mentioned in prior posts, the board does have a fiscal responsibility to the club, as well as needs to run the club as a business, and from that standpoint has had to make some "unpopular" decisions, which results in dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't. Hopefully the GSDCA will see financial gains over the next few years, Chris Chris S. Kimerer Hillside-Tanbark Kennels "where good bloodlines never die"