WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx writes "... its same thing with hips and elbows, just because a dog has its A stamp or OFA and passes doesn't mean shit for genetics.. " Are you basing this claim upon scientific evidence or upon anecdotal evidence. If the former, I would appreciate you posting links to some of your sources. If the latter, how large of a population did you study? Did you do a horizontal analysis of pedigrees or strictly a vertical analysis? I consider the OFA to be an excellent tool; the breeder may garner useful information which should be employed when making current and future breeding choices. PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam ----- Original Message ----- From: <WyMarGSD2@xxxxxxx> To: <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: <showgsd@xxxxxxx>; <wynsum@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 2:59 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Toxic Gut Syndrome SIGNS/SYMPTOMS good genetics :) and when we have no idea about what the genetic geenie is going to bring, we feed top shelf kibble to do what we think will help in the GOD FORBID event the dogs are genetically prone to some terrible GI issue its same thing with hips and elbows, just because a dog has its A stamp or OFA and passes doesn't mean shit for genetics.. cuz how many dogs are produced from OFA excellent parents that end up with HD... and vice versa...BUT we MUST certify our dogs with the A stamp or OFA or on the very least xray with good picture, before breeding to DO THE RIGHT THING... at least we are trying to do the right thing by getting a our dogs proven with a title or championship etc... on top of breeding known healthy bloodlines... and feeding them the best and providing supplements to keep our dogs healthy :) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================