Ed there is not a statement pro or con about the dog world that isn't founded in truth. Be part of the solution to this problem. Get busy get your judges lic. and lead the way. I know you think I am being sarcastic but I am not. The breed needs people that are idealistic. the second thing thing that will happen is you will have walked in the other mans shoes and that will soften your opinion and I think you will be more objective. If you choose The path I have suggested I will help you in anyway I can. Fred Migliore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================