In a message dated 12/20/2004 11:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > Syd has a good point..why do they cut us off? should the rules change a > bit..maybe be more relaxed to foster good dialoge?..To me..since some have > chosen to incorporate German lines with amercian show lines..the discussion > of German /Amercian is very pertinent for the List...I find it much more > enlightneing then discusiing toenails, puppy poop, dog food brands and > brags...if nearly all things controversial are forbidden...then what > seperates us form a "pet List". I have heard from others privately that > they enjoy the more "heated" discussions ...I think the Admin should > referee when the posting gets personal...or insulting...Perhaps this is why > the List has lost some interest...or why others are seeking out developing > or joining new Lists which allow more freedom of discussion. Perhaps even > this subject matter might be considered taboo...I am not certain..but > nonetheless..it is being discussed privately...so maybe it should be > brought to the forefront. C.Grainger > I agree with all mentioned in the above post. If the reason for incorporating import dogs is to produce a better American styled German Shepherd then by all means have at it. And I see no problem with discussing it on the list. If we discuss the success and the failures in these breedings we all learn. I though that's what the list was for. I have been involved in using two German bitches and to be honest so far I have produced some nice sound pets but not what I want, And so the lament of the breeder, maybe the next litter. On the other hand Dan Smith [Darby Dan Kennels] using a bitch he got from me produced a select bitch when bred to a German Import. Darby Dan's Eve. Hopefully I will get something as nice. Fred Migliore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================