It looks like we may be headed towards a puppy underground. Once upon a time I was going to buy a puppy from a German breeder in Washington State. I asked if I would be getting written contract with a written guarantee. The lady said " Only if you are willing to pay for it" So without a contract and a guarantee the pup was only 1500.00 I never asked what the contract and guarantee would be. I am sure this goes on anyway but I bet it happens more now. Terry ________________________________ From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: "showgsd-l@freelists. org" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 4:02:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The worst time of my life The PUPS bill (S3424) includes all co-owners when they count dogs offered for sale. So if you have 1 dog and Carolyn has 5 and you co- own all of them with her (nice?), and she sells or offers for sale 50 dogs per year, YOUR dog will be required to be under USDA regulations. As well as hers. :-) And Carolyn can't sell the dogs over the telephone, and probably not have her pups available on her website. All will be "illegal." Now???? Stormy On Jun 28, 2010, at 3:45 PM, David Fritsche wrote: > What we should all probably do is heed Stormy's advise and not have > co-owners unless they are rich and then we should all name them as > co-owners > of everything we have to reduce our liability exposure. I think Ed > Hill is > probably the richest or is it Frank and Carolyn? As soon as we > figure that > out we can start sending our papers back to AKC ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================