In a message dated 12/15/2004 1:32:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, domntim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: My interpretation is that it depends on what we want from a GSD, we then draw "our standard" to match "our expectations". Yes, interpretations are often influenced by personal experience and hence personal preference. Quality control is another topic! Tim I agree Tim...if you are not after a GV etc, and just want a dog that makes people say"Whoa", that is a choice too. A friend had her half German male pup at the national, and turned down a lot of money from folks who wanted just a spectacular dog, not necessarily a show dog. Syd SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 Updated Website Fabio/Viggo _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================