I frequently see these same traits in many American bred dogs and puppies so one doesn't necessarily have to go to German lines to get them - but to each their own! Melissa Wow...it is like a different breed. Sturdy, boned, fearless, handsome, like the beautiful German dogs of old. Beautiful toplines and heads. Acceptable necks. The color is > unbelievable, they are very very black and very very red. The love everyone and fear no one, even as puppies. Like they say on X factor..."The truth is out there"... Syd > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================