Bill Koehler was the only person I have ever met who kicked an owner out of a class for being unfair to her dog. She was inconsistent and did not praise the dog in a timely manner. I will always remember his "Praise Delayed is Praise Denied". You learned to be fair to your dog - and nothing less was accepted. He fully believed in educating the dog before correcting the dog - something way too many people who train via his books seem to ignore. Ruth ----- Original Message ---- From: "Gsdbroon@xxxxxxx" <Gsdbroon@xxxxxxx> To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:28:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The Koehler Method In a message dated 6/16/2009 10:17:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The above is the first of three William Koehler books that I own, the other two are " The Koehler Method of Training Tracking Dogs" and " The Koehler Method of Open Obedience"...I got these books in the early 70's....and as a result of these books and a few others I am an EXCELLENT dog trainer.....some of Mr. Koehler's methods are questionable and I either modified them or used another method altogether....I have no doubt that ALL his methods work....but just because something works does not automatically make it a good idea.....I like my fourth graders to remain in their seats, and If I shackled them all to their desks, that would certainly work....dunking a dogs head under water.....well I can't swim, so you know what I think about that.....I'll tell you how I solve my diggers.....cement kennel runs....works every time...my next post will upset a few so I am warning you now!...Ed Hill Tom & I were privileged to train dogs under Bill Koehler in the 50s and 60s. His methods have been poorly interpreted by other trainers. Bill never abused a dog in his life. The most obstreperous dog in the world turned to milk toast the minute he took the lead. He had a magic touch and was a wonderful teacher. If 45 dogs/trainers started the class you can bet that 44 finished, viv ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x122182 3265x1201398681/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jun eExcfooterNO62) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================