For the record, from what I have seen of the Illustrated Standard project, which was underway before I came onto the Board so I don't know first-hand how it originated, there is nothing nefarious going on. There have been many revisions and adjustments made to the drawings by the Board, most of whom are specialty judges, and Dave Rinke has also been consulting. Personally, although I know what I like, since I am NOT a specialty judge, I generally keep quiet and listen to those who can best critique structure during the working sessions. The drawings do not look like German-line dogs, and there are very few photos - most are drawings, of correct and faulty structure. I understand that they have tried for years to get something together to replace the current Illustrated Standard, which is what is given to all-breed judges now. If you haven't seen it, take a look: http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/IllStan1.htm If the current project is trashed, and it means going back to the drawing board, it will undoubtedly take a long time to achieve a finished product. The Board only meets 4 times a year, and the National meeting is abbreviated. All the people who work on these are volunteers, so it all takes quite a while. They have worked very hard, and whether you agree or disagree with Linda Shaw's philosophical perspective, she and the committee members have donated a huge amount of time and hard work to try to get this accomplished. So, whatever you think of it or of how it came to be, is it not possible to have a discussion without all the rampant paranoia and accusation ? It is very unfair to the people who are working hard to have an Illustrated Standard that resembles current-day conformation dogs, and extremely discourteous besides. Since nothing is at the point of even considering finalization, there really was nothing worth showing club members yet. There is nothing about this that is intended to be top secre[MARGERY GOLANT] t , sneaky or underhanded - anyone who comes to a Board meeting where this is being discussed is welcome to review what exists. As Mary Tripp mentioned, she was present last time, saw it, provided considerable input into it. Please go look at the current Illustrated Standard, then decide if you really want to see the current project to replace it die. http://www.gsdca.org/Noframes/standard/IllStan1.htm Margery Golant -----Original Message----- From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx [mailto:Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 1:01 AM To: mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: ADMIN - The Illustrated Standard Ok, thanks, honestly my brain is fried from answering all the emails.....it's hard to keep up with the influx...but I am sure you understand that only too well. Have a good nite kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================