Laurie -- The last time I checked this is still a free country, and if it happened as you report, the great Houston Clark needs to calm down and pay attention to judging the dogs and stop worrying about who is or isn't clapping. A good, sensible judge shouldn't care at all about who is clapping for whom because it shouldn't have any influence on their judging. Do you really think that a judge has some Divine Right of Kings through which they're entitled to tell the spectators not to clap for their favorite? I don't think that even the AKC politburo has decreed that yet. Dog shows, even puppy matches, are competitive endeavors. Always have been, hopefully always will be. Teenagers are very resilient. If they have the fire and they stick with it, someday they'll be receiving the applause for their dogs and admiration for their skills. I do think that it's always good to cheer for every junior handler that is entered in that specific competition. tom elkins Firethorn Temple http://www.firethorntemple.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Laurie Pruett Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 7:18 PM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Taking the "fun" out of a fun match... Tonight, in Ballston Spa, we entered several youngsters in the puppy fun match that the club put on after BIS. Since I don't handle, Ariel and I recruited a couple of young inexperienced teenagers to help us show our untrained puppies. The fun kinda went out of it, though, for the kids when a group of adults LOUDLY clapped, hooted, and cheered for the GSD puppy shown by their professional handler with no support from that group for the kids. We wonder why entries are falling and why it's difficult to bring young people into our breed, but after the display I saw tonight at a fun match, I don't wonder at all. It makes me sad... BTW, during breed judging today Houston Clark addressed the crowd about the uneven clapping that was going on outside of the ring and told spectators NOTto clap for any animal unless they clapped for every animal. The clapping by handler groups that goes on at the GSD ring is very off-putting for newcomers and owner-handlers in our breed. As, as seasoned as I am in the dog world, I find the practice disheartening. It's too bad we continue to behave this way - we're our own worst enemies when it comes to keeping the sport of showing GSD's in conformation alive. As always, this is JMO... Laurie Pruett ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================