Nowhere in our standard is BACKLINE mentioned. That said, let's speak of the entire TOPLINE, which starts at the occiput and flows smoothly through the croup. The comments have not included the junction of the neck and wither, which should flow with absolutely no break into the back, loin, and croup. BTW, the back consists of only five vertebrea where the spines change direction. Placing the hand just at the top of the neck and running it down the neck, there should be no stop or angle at all where the neck joins the wither. This is true in almost any breed unless that breed calls for a ewe neck. This is where I see many of our dogs failing. It can be "groomed out" so that it is not visually apparent, but the hand does not miss that abrupt stop at the end of the neck. What say you, Peggy ? Carolyn --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================