Hi Stormy, Yes I agree there are potentially multiple items to vote on, however I do not believe it is a choice of one or the other. The following three items are mutually exclusive, they represent a choice of the membership for how the whites will exist within the GSD breed and their role with the GSDCA. 1. Leave the STANDARD ALONE 3. Allow white to become a SERIOUS FAULT 4. Remove the DQ of the White Coat. The other item is not related to the other three and a represents a separate decision than the other three choices: 2. Allow SEPARATION for those who prefer the white color This is in response to the request and petition submitted by AWSA which is asking that the GSDCA not object to the AKC establishing the White Shepherd/BBS as a separate breed within the Foundation Stock Service program. Again this does not imply endorsement or approval of the separate breed, just that the GSDCA does not object. This would have no impact on those who wish their white dogs to remain as part of the GSD breed and subject to the outcome of the choice from the first group of options. There are those with white coated dogs who wish for their dogs to remain as part of the GSD breed. Myself and the members of AWSA respect their choices and wish them well, we are not working against them as our goal of recognition of a separate breed is an entirely different issue. Thanks, Melanie Fuellgraf Subject: Re: THREE choices on the ballot. From: "Stormy V. Hope" <stormy435@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 10:23:44 -0700 Actually, I guess if it went to a survey/vote to the membership, it should have all four choices > 1. Leave the STANDARD ALONE > 2. Allow SEPARATION for those who prefer the white color > 3. Allow white to become a SERIOUS FAULT 4. Remove the DQ of the White Coat. That actually would stop all further discussion, wouldn't it? Those that didn't like the results, one way or another, would either just continue on or quit. If there is going to be a Membership survey, it should have all choices available. I wish the Board would send that out to the membership at least as a formal survey. Stormy who is BIG on freedom of choice <VBG> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================