Thanks Joan. That is a great suggestion. I was just advised (which I had forgotten), that Salt Lake City is a Delta hub, so I will add that to my list. Margy -----Original Message----- From: Joan Fox [mailto:campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:48 AM To: arelee@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Starting at point 1/the hub Great list Margery! Thanks! I wonder if nancy Harper has any updates? BTW.... Continental and Northwest are now one airline in reality and neither do excess baggage just cargo which as I pointed out before gets horribly expensive. -------Original Message------- From: mgolant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 02/09/05 10:29:57 To: arelee@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Starting at point 1/the hub Beryl, you are exactly right, and was the subject of a discussion on the List last July. What I was given by a List member at that time when I = asked is: "Based on the number of unique destinations served by what we call "mainline" jets (i.e., not regional jets), the top hubs in the US would = be: Delta - Atlanta - 133 Continental - Houston - 105 American - Dallas - 103 Continental - Newark - 102 Northwest - Minneapolis - 96 Northwest - Detroit - 92 American - Miami - 75 USAirways - Charlotte - 75 USAirways - Philadelphia - 69 United - Chicago - 74 American - Chigago - 64 Delta - Cincinnati - 62 United - Denver - 51 Northwest - Memphis - 42 I left out American West and Southwest because they don't accept dogs. = Some of the unique destinations might be international. Of course, some of those airports you'd probably want to eliminate due to weather in that area, such as Newark, Chicago, Minneapolis." It is my understanding that the hub airports can change from time to = time. If anyone is able to supplement or revise the above list, please let me know, as I do save it as a reference on this issue. We have tried to do exactly that - to search for sites that are within a manageable driving distance of hub airports, and that also fit all of = our other criteria. However, another key consideration is the stated wish = of the membership that the National rotate from East to Middle to West, = etc., and that it be the first week of November. The only airport on the = above list in the West is Denver, which has been criticized for other reasons. = It has been suggested that Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, and maybe Newark, = are potentially very iffy at that time of year. So, the challenge: to = balance the priorities and to arrive at solutions that work, given all of the = issues and difficulties.=20 If anyone knows of potential sites within commuting distance of: Atlanta Houston Dallas Newark Minneapolis Detroit Miami Charlotte Philadelphia Chicago Chigago Cincinnati Denver Memphis which have the potential to accommodate all our events, are dog-friendly = and exhibitor-friendly, have potential availability and accessibility at the very end of October, beginning of November, please communicate this to = the Board. The best way to do that is via Nanci Nellis and/or Debbie = Hokkanen, but in addition, the entire Board is reachable via one email to: board@xxxxxxxxx Trust me, we really do want to know about them. Margy Golant -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On = Behalf Of billie Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:04 AM To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Starting at point 1/the hub Listers, It seems to me that the first place to begin is the HUB. If we know the airports that are hubs first, then we can begin the = search for locations within that hub area. Correct me if I'm wrong, but we seem = to keep trying to get to certain wonderful sites first, then to find out = the difficulty of getting there by air. Obviously driving to any location anywhere is not feasible for the majority of people in the US. Anyone = know which airports are hubs, how many choices do we have with these hubs?? = Let's begin at square 1. 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