In reply to what Peggy wrote below...let's just agree to disagree. The really good ones (of various bloodlines) do not get stagey, never look bad and win. My 6-9 bitch at the Nationals that went Reserve AT THE NATIONALS, also went GVX. My 9-12 BIF Boss went Grad Victor. My 6-9 bitch BOF, went Grand Victrix. My 9-12 bitch at the Nationals went Grand Victrix. I bred to an 11 month old dog named Quick with my Maturity Victrix, and he went Grand Victor. Picked him also at 6 months and he never looked bad. I was blessed with 3 dogs that never went through stages and other people have had even better ones. I'm afraid what is falling between the lines is that I said..."the REALLY GOOD ONES are always really good....and they are. Helen Franklin "A student of the breed for 41 years" ........................................... : Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:49:29 -0400 From: Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx> To: rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: helen@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Stagey Puppies... Not all wonderful puppies stay wonderful, no matter what your personal experience has been...there are many more who do not live up to their early promise...and there are even more who go thru stages. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================