I prefer All Breeds because it's easier to show my own dog which consequently makes it cheaper for me to do (handlers are also cheaper).....but not sure that it's any less political or any more fair. Judges are less knowledgable and a judge lacking in confidence is more likely to go with a handler assuming he has the better dog...so either way the handler wins. It's also easier to win with a dog that can't move it's way out of a paper bag which isn't a good thing for the breed. I think, without question that the biggest reason that specialty shows are on the decline is because of the high costs associated with hiring a handler. I am not going to send my dog with a handler and not enjoy the fun of being at the show, which consequently means I have to pay my expenses and my handler fees & expenses.......turning a weekend staying in a cheap hotel in the middle of nowhere into a several hundred dollar excursion, usually with no pay off. ...and yes I'm entered in the Futurities and no I'm not going......unless I win the lottery between now and then. Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com PS - I have no idea what late enteries have to do with declining entries....sorry. --- On Tue, 4/6/10, BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx <BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx <BAERENTATZE312@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Specialty vs All Breed Shows To: terraf@xxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 11:04 AM Your statement below is the crux of our speciality versus all breed show problem. THE ALL BREED SHOWS HAVE ALLOWED US TO SHOW AND COMPETE IN A MORE FAIR AND EQUITABLE STATE. This I believe is the MAIN reason why our specialities are shrinking. Most specialities stretch the AKC rules, especially in the area of being on time for the closing dates. There are those who are continually 'allowed' to break the rules and enter late - I'm talking days late, and then don't pay for their entries till the last day of the show. On the other side there are those who abide by the rules to the extent of paying an expensive overnite service to get their entries in on time along with their payment. What is wrong with this picture? Yes there are those that know they have the specialty clubs between a rock and a hard place because we need the entries. BUT they certainly can't get away with it at the all breed shows now, can they? Our specialty sport has become so very clique-like, so very unfair. People see this and get fed up with the inequities, the consequence is radically reduced entries. What needs to happen is ALL specialty clubs need to abide by all the rules and not show any favoritism. If those who assume they are exempt from AKC rules are held to them, and suffer the consequences of not being able to show because they are late with their entries - will change their ways, because it will cost them where it hurts, financially. Can you imagine a client whose big name handler was late with multiple entries and won't be able to show them? I'm guessing it wouldn't be too long before they get their act together. This of course is just my opinion from past experiences as a show secretary for many years. A function, which in good conscience going forward I can no longer perform. Regards, Pat ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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