[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Spay & incontinance

  • From: "Gail Engels" <gaile@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <cgialluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:48:35 -0700

I also have a bitch that I spayed that has urinary incontinance and will be
on meds for the rest of her life.

I have no data on this, but my vet. now says it is common.

As we do agility, obedience and rally, I thought she would be a better
working dog, as we would not have to worry about heat cycles and not
competing at those times.

I wish I had not spayed her, I had no idea this would happen.

Gail

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cynthia Gialluca" <cgialluca@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx>; <beth0024@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Erynbrook@xxxxxxx>;
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 8:58 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Picking Puppies


> Wellhaving worked int he veterinary field I can give you one reason.  When
> we saw urinary incontinance in a reletively young bitch, the first
question
> we asked was "When was she spayed?"  9 times out of 10 the asnwer we got
was
> 'I dont know, we got her at 2 mos or 3 mos or even 4 mos from a shelter
and
> she was already spayed.  That is 9 times out of 10.  when I say young
> bitches I mean 3 and 4 year olds.  Sure we ran UAs and most of the time
they
> would come back negative.  Why would anyone want to have an owner that has
> to give meds to help with urinary incontinance when it could easily have
> been avoided?
>
> Cindy Gialluca
> Cyneca German Shepherds
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Colleen Donnelly" <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <beth0024@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Erynbrook@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 10:48 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Picking Puppies
>
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> > The ramifications ARE and have always been realized by people that do
> > rescue.
> >
> > I put it to you and others that "pooh pooh" early spay and neuter to get
> > your butts out their and volunteer IN a shelter AT LEAST 4 hours a day.
> >
> > If your pet pups are NOT going to be bred, why NOT spay/neuter them???
> > Answer that. Please.
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> > Colleen Donnelly
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> > Beth Reynolds <beth0024@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Thank you Susan,
> >
> > There are way to many folks willing to spay and neuter puppies and
kittens
> > way before they should be. The ramifications of early spay and neuter
are
> > only being realized. Which for some puppies and kittens well its
> > unfortunate.
> >
> > Beth
> > Colorado
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Erynbrook@xxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:11 PM
> > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Picking Puppies
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> > In a message dated 10/16/2005 8:56:51 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> > gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx writes:
> >> You make sure they are Neutered/Spayed when they leave....
> >
> > Excuse me - I must have missed something. Someone spays or neuters
> > companion
> > pups before they are sold? Like at 8 weeks?????????
> >
> > Susan Casey
> > Erynbrook German Shepherds and
> > Front Range German Shepherd Rescue
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