I only vote in the venue in which I have participated, and THEN only if I know a judge. Last year, I knew a herding judge, didn't vote, though. But the same goes for conformation judges. How many people vote for judges that they have never seen judge? Only know by reputation or maybe a friend's word. I wonder if it would be to unwieldy to have judges nominated for specific classes: i.e., Intersex gets 4 judges nominated, dogs, 4, bitches 4. and then petitions would be directed toward the specific class. That would eliminate the weighted ballot, which I believe does skew the results, and give members a choice for the 'class' they would like their nominee to judge. When I voted the weighted ballot, I did that, put the person that I 'would have' preferred up there on top, but it negates the vote, really. I think to restrict the vote to only the National attending or exhibiting would be terribly discriminating. Perhaps a person (like I) could only attend a National every 5 years, or even once in a lifetime, yet is just as excited, educated, concerned about the pick of judges as those that go every year. We are members, after all. Stormy "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return UPDATED 2/11/06....CHECK IT OUT!!!! www.FairhopeGSD.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================