With the entries continuing to decline I say do what ever :0) Next year the Northwest region drops to 9-9. for a 3 point major. How in the heck will the clubs survive. If it weren't for the all breed performance the clubs would be gone. If the doublers needed a golf cart to get around the ring I would be fingering out a way to make a doubling lane if I thought it would increase entries.  At this point in time with the difficulty traveling with dogs and making connections I am curious to see what happens after the third year at Purina. If the entries continue to fall will they try rotating again? I really haven't heard anyone from the western part of the USA that is going to the national to show. I am sure there will be a few go to watch. Maybe the PC should charge a entry fee for non-members? That might increase revenues as well as an added incentive to be a PC member?  Just thinking out loud, Terry ________________________________ From: PagairsGSD <pagairs@xxxxxxx> To: "cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx" <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Showing National for the rest of us Wonder if Evan would do just that if there were an AKC Rep there!? Gary Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Evan wrote..... > > I actually will hold the class to let the double handlers get in� position. > I have > even told some double handlers� to change where they were� standing to > get > in a better place.� We should all strive to get to a better� place. > > Evan as the judge, I believe your assignment is to judge what you see in the > ring at that time on that day. Not orchestrate the choreography of the double > handlers. Whereas the handler is usually being paid to present the dog to you > in the best way they can. It is their job as a professional to know how to > achieve this. I believe that is why they are "paid". > > But then again there is the element of entertainment. > > And to coin your phase .... Not that there is anything wrong with that > ......... > > > � > Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds > AKC Breeder of Merit > > http://www.cherlynshepherds.com > Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership > �� CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC > ��Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, CD, RA, TC, HIC, CGC,OFA Excellent �� > > > > ________________________________ > From: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:17 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Showing National for the rest of us > > Evan writes:� "I want the shows to be fun for everyone. If double handling > helps that, go for it." > > And, that's what it's all about -- FUN!� Although I'm really rotten at it, > I love double handling.� I love the bells, whistles, duck calls etc., and I > enjoy watching the doublers tear around the ring desperately trying to get > their dog's attention.� It adds to the "atmosphere" of showing. > > I hope there will never come a day when doubling is discouraged at Specialty > shows. > > > > PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member > Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds > Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ELG440@xxxxxxx> > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:12 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Showing National for the rest of us > > > I have made it clear to exhibitors, and the AKC.� I don't care about� > double handling. So long as I get to see the dog on a loose lead at one > point,� > and so long as I evaluate temperament, I don't care.� > > I know those outside the ring want to feel they are involved, and sometimes > to the point that they think the reason they won is because they doubled > the dog� so well. > > If� that keeps people coming back to the shows, that works for� me.� I > actually will hold the class to let the double handlers get in� position. I > have > even told some double handlers� to change where they were� standing to > get > in a better place.� We should all strive to get to a better� place. > > I want the shows to be fun for everyone. 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