Steve, Regardless about the teeth.......I have had Mom's that almost tear the door down to get to her pups and they are 8 weeks old! Do I deny her access to them? Absolutely not.........she wants her babies, she has her babies. She sucks it up, and she nurses them. That is HER choice, they are HER pups. I would NEVER keep a Mom from her pups........this is SUCH a special bonding/ teaching time for the kids. Mom has lessons to teach and it goes WELL beyond just feeding them. My Mom's sleep in the pen with them as long as SHE wants. She needs the cuddle time as much as the pups do. Nothing prettier than to see them all nestled in the pine shavings....and she is licking one......and smacking another cause they misbehaved. Years later when the pups come to visit, their Moms remember them. This breeding thing is about the MOMS......Listen to them and let them be my guide. They don't want with the pups....so be it. To date...and that is almost 16 years, my Moms want their pups as often as possible. Mo We start weaning at 3 weeks, and if they are > eating solid food well at 5 weeks but still pestering Mom to nurse > them, we move them at 5 weeks. Those Puppy Teeth are murder on Mom's > breasts!!! Obviously, they have spent time with these three Dogs > before, but at about 6 weeks, they make the switch permanently. > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================