<<For breeders whose females live in the house all the time and are not ever living in Kennels, when weaning puppies how long do you let the moms stay with the puppies until? A detailed description would be great :) like When do you start to gradually take them from Mom, if you do? Do you let them visit right up til the puppies are 8 weeks til they go? If so, is it harder for them when they leave? I will say i am looking for a scenario for a bitch that had a huge litter of 10 and up.... how do you keep the puppies away from the Mom when everyone is living in the same house, if you do this? thanks! Dawnmarie>> All our dogs live in the House, which means there are a lot of Dogs to visit Puppies and act as Puppy Mentors. The answer to your final question is that we keep the Puppies away from their Mom by permanently establishing them in the Living Room with a Male and 2 Females when they are about 6 weeks old. This may occur earlier, depending on whether the Mom has successfully convinced them that it time to stop Nursing. We start weaning at 3 weeks, and if they are eating solid food well at 5 weeks but still pestering Mom to nurse them, we move them at 5 weeks. Those Puppy Teeth are murder on Mom's breasts!!! Obviously, they have spent time with these three Dogs before, but at about 6 weeks, they make the switch permanently. The Puppy Visits from the older Dogs start about 24-48 hours after whelping, with the Mother out of the room. This gets the Pups used to being with other dogs right at the start. We also have many 2-legged Visitors to the Pups, as well as taking them out for Visits to the Post Office, Town Hall, Convenience Stores, WalMart parking lot, etc., for early and frequent Socialisation with People. The added benefit is that they get used to being away from Mom for short periods early on. This, of course, assumes that all the Pups are healthy, and that weather-wise it is safe for Outside Visits. The Pups are also allowed to explore every room in the house, with and without Mom, as well as outside, by the time they are 3 weeks old. This way, they get used to doing things on their own as well as with Mom. They also have inside and outside Play Time with Mom, again depending on the Weather, up until the time they leave. These periods get shorter and shorter as they get older, so they are spending more time playing with the older Dogs (and people) as they get closer to time to go to new homes. We feel that these things make it easier on both the Puppies and their Parents when the time comes for the Pups to go to their new Homes; being away from Mom has become an established part of the Routine. One of the most interesting things about the Pups from Tacoma and Sheila is that Tacoma, the Sire, stays with the Mother and Pups constantly from the time they are about 24 hours old until they go to the Living Room with the 3 older Dogs. He knows to stay away when Sheila is nursing the Puppies. He is an incredible Father, who cleans the Puppies, helps clean up after them, visits them in the Whelping Box to give Mom a few minutes to herself, and plays with them when they are getting out of the Box on their own. We feel that the presence of a nurturing Father as well as their Mother, is an added benefit for when they get to their new homes. Steve Visit Two Feathers German Shepherds online at http://www.wmj1944.com Website updated 7/7/2005. "If you invite the Wolf to Dinner, then don't get mad when he eats something." - Unknown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================